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February 22, 2008

Consider The 2012 Hall Of Fame Ballot

Filed under: Baseball, Matthews' Memoirs — Bill @ 7:33 pm
Ponder this…
Perhaps the most talked abbot Hall Of Fame vote in history:
Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, & Sammy Sosa up for the Hall Of Fame ballot.
If Mike Piazza retires he too could be part of this group.
Who gets in?
Who deserves to be in?
Given the steroid frenzy perhaps Piazza is the only one elected (ironically), however it is likely that he plays this season with the A’s (which will void him from the 2012 vote)..
Assuming there is nobody else left to vote for, maybe Gil Hodges, Bert Blyleven & Pete Rose will get in.


  1. This will be the most talked about HOF vote in history. I think it will end up happening to some extent, because I think we’ve seen the last of Clemens, Bonds, and Sosa on the baseball field (Thank god!)
    It will be interesting to see what happens over the next five years, and how that impacts each of their careers. It’s quite possible that the type of evidence that exists about Bonds will also be discovered about Clemens. And even though it is unlikely a perjury conviction will ever come down on Bonds, it is very likely that the mountain of evidence presented against him in a trial may force Selig to ban Bonds from the sport, much like Pete Rose. Remember, in the famous “Black Sox” scandel of 1919, the “Black Sox” was acquitted in the trial, but were then banished forever from the sport by the new commissioner, Kenesaw “Mountain” Landis. Selig may be forced to do something like that to Bonds in order to maintain the fraction of a reputation Selig has.
    Considering all things being equal (Bonds is not expelled from the game, no further information comes out on Clemens), my prediction is that none of these guys makes the Hall on the 2012 ballot. Bonds would then get in on the 2013 ballot, because the body of work he did prior to using steroids was automatic hall worthy. Sosa will never get in, because not enough writers really feel he would’ve put up any kind of career numbers without using the juice. Clemens will be iffy for several years, and will finally be voted in about 10 years later. He will be so “Roger,” that he’ll decide to forego his nomination and not show up for the ceremony in protest that he wasn’t voted in sooner.
    As far as Mike Piazza goes, whenever he retires, he will be a first ballot HOFer 5 years later, going down as the greatest hitting catcher of all time.

    Comment by Gary Matthews — February 23, 2008 @ 7:58 am

  2. BTW. on the HOF subject, sorry about Bill King not getting in this time around. However, the selection of Dave Neihaus, radio voice for the entire history of the Seattle Mariners, is very deserved.

    Comment by Gary Matthews — February 24, 2008 @ 1:02 pm

  3. Bonds, Clemens [and Pete Rose, for that matter] won’t get into the Hall in their lifetime. Bill King is arguably the greatest basketball announcer ever and a terrific football guy. Baseball? It was a struggle for him, and we the listener. He could never find that relaxed rhythm [Lon Simmons had it then, Dave Fleming has it now] that comes so naturally to some folk. He had what my grandmother would have described as “ants in the pants.” Too many words, too many stats.

    Comment by Ralph Zig Tyko — February 25, 2008 @ 9:17 am

  4. It is unfortunate that Bill King didn’t make the Hall, I had hoped he would make it based on the body of his work. But not this year….

    Rumors are that Bonds’ agent is meeting with the owner of the Tampa Bay Rays about a contract for this season.

    My mention of Rose was a joke of course, the only way he will ever get into the Hall of Fame will be to buy a ticket.


    Comment by Bill — February 25, 2008 @ 10:48 am

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